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What Did They Do Next Part 20b – Rick Wakeman, once again – 477

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Return to the centre of the earth CD

In part 2 of our occasional ‘What did they do next’ series, we listen to Return To The Centre Of The Earth. We also welcome Nic Caciappo onto the show to explain his personal connection to the Rick Wakeman album.

It’s a great conversation and a lovely treat to meet Nic, at least virtually.

  • What is this album like?
  • How was Nic involved?
  • Was it a worthwhile idea?

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5 replies on “What Did They Do Next Part 20b – Rick Wakeman, once again – 477”

I’ve loved this album since it’s release. I have several versions of it. I also have a Rick signed poster of the Canadian concert. I reviewed the cd for Progression magazine at the time, and really pushed it to everyone I knew. I convinced our local NPR (National Public Radio) station here in Columbus, Ohio, to play it.

Great episode guys, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts. I have a soft spot for this album as it was a return to form for Rick after years of mediocrity (in his solo recordings). I can’t believe it was 22 years ago, wow.
Maybe you could consider doing a follow-up feature based on his 2012 re-recording of the original Journey To The Centre Of The Earth, done in a studio with a symphony orchestra, choir and band. Maybe see how it differed from the original ‘Journey’ recording and see if the 1999 ‘Return’ ended up influencing the new 2012 ‘Journey’ in any way. I’d be very interested to hear your views on that.
Keep up the great work, it’s a highlight of the week to get every new episode – which I usually listen to on a Saturday morning while walking the dog. Great stuff.

I must confess, despite being a Star Trek and Patrick Stewart fan, I always listen to this without his narration. Sacrilege I hear you say? Well I seem to recall that the tracks were deliberately separated so that you can do this if you want. This, of course, is something you can’t easily do with the original version with narration by David Hemmings (and I wouldn’t want to anyway).

Yeah, once you’ve heard the narration a couple of times you don’t really want to hear it again, so like you I now listen to only the songs. The tracks were nicely separated to allow this. Actually I would quite like to hear the backing music of the narration tracks without the narration, as an extra option.

Excellent episode, and spot-on analysis of this record. I found “Return” to be superior to the ’74 original in almost every way, from the quality of the compositions to the guest-artists (Ozzie is great & Patrick Stewart is brilliant, I’d pay to hear him read the phone book) to the orchestral/choral/rock arranging/recording/mixing. Curiously the textures and overall feel here remind me of Chris Squire’s Swiss Choir more than Yes-Symphonic Live, Moody Blues, Renaissance, or any other orchestral rock album. I think that is due to the prominence of the choir in both albums. There’s nothing like a professional English choir (as I discovered a few years ago at St. Martin-in-the Fields free lunchtime concerts)! I too would have loved more piano and more Trevor Rabin guitar (my hunch is that the lead vocal & lead guitar on “Never” were the only things done at Jacaranda–this feels like a “one & done” for him). So glad that they gave Rick the adequate resources for this very enjoyable project! Cheers!

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