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End of 2019 crossover episode featuring The Progressive Palaver – 412

The Progressive Palaver Podcast join us for a joint episode!
The Progressive Palaver Podcast join us for a joint episode!

Produced by Jeffrey Crecelius, Wayne Hall, Preston Frazier and Bill Govier

For a special end of decade show, we join forces with our friends at the Progressive Palaver and enjoy a Two Pence all about Tormato!

  • What would you do to ‘fix’ Tormato?
  • Does it need to be fixed?
  • Is it worth fixing?

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  • Jeffrey Crecelius
  • Preston Frazier
  • Bill Govier and
  • Wayne Hall


Aaron Steelman
Dave Owen
Mark James Lang
Paul Tomei
Joost Maglev
David Heyden
Martin Kjellberg
Paul Wilson
Bob Martilotta
Michael O’Connor
Peter Hearnden
Brian Sullivan
David Pannell
Miguel Falcão
Lobate Scarp
Chris Bandini
David Watkinson
Neal Kaforey
Rachel Hadaway
Craig Estenes
Paul Hailes
Mark ‘Zarkol’ Baggs
Doug Curran
Robert Nasir
Fergus Cubbage
Scott Colombo
Fred Barringer
Scott Smith
Geoff Bailie
Simon Barrow
Geoffrey Mason
Stephen Lambe
Guy R DeRome
Steve Dill
Henrik Antonsson
Steve Perry
Hogne Bø Pettersen
Steve Rode
Steve Scott
Jamie McQuinn
Steven Roehr
Ken Fuller
Terence Sadler
Michael Handerhan
Tim Stannard
Todd Dudley
John Cowan
Tony Handley
John Holden
Joseph Cottrell
John Parry
Keith Hoisington
John Thomson
William Hayes
Barry Gorsky

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Theme music

The music I use is the last movement of Stravinsky’s Firebird Suite. This has been used as introduction music at many Yes concerts. My theme music is not take from a live concert – I put it together from the following two creative commons sources: thanvannispen and

4 replies on “End of 2019 crossover episode featuring The Progressive Palaver – 412”

Interesting discussion. Yes, IMHO, remix, rerecord and rethink the instrumentation. There are a lot of good parts and songs on this album. I could comment in more detail, but suffice it to say that I think the main problem is Rick’s keyboard sounds. From what I gather, he was experimenting with digital keyboards and it sounds like he’d forsaken all the analog ones on this record. Listen to Release, Release as a good example. The keys are mostly high and shrill. Why he went with this “dog whistle” tone has always perplexed me. Towards the end Rick is in unison with Anderson’s vocals and in the same register. It makes the whole thing sound so shrill. Imagine what this song (and the whole album) would have sounded like with some warm-sounding instruments like melotrons or organs. That might be a great project for the current Yes to do: take a few of the best songs from this album and rerecord them, not as exact covers; but with a clean slate.

For years I’ve been telling you what’s wrong with Tormato. Glad that these guys agree with me 🙂 Have a great 2020

Part 2
The best. The best song; my favorite, at least; is On The Silent Wings of Freedom. The bass intro to this song is one of the best in Yes and anywhere, IMHO. I love the way it rises then descends right into the first vocal line. The bass is great throughout this album. Onward is a beautiful song too.

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